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dioxnet
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Treat or wait......................

Post by dioxnet »

Hello, first, not English, this is translated goglee :(
gracias thanks

ingles goglee
While on vacation swallow sea water and 36 hours later note as if cogiera flu , aches and pains in the body, hard hours , and then swelling stomach, about 3 days , depositions began to dwindle , all this was , but they were some symptoms of nausea and dizziness stomach, and feces slurry , color throwing light brown , about 30days ( very slow healing every day less but very slow ) take omeprazole and everything burning never went in those days ,
after 15 days without symptoms and without taking anything back , they upset stomach and some nausea at times of nerves (stress ) and started taking omeprazole were more nauseous .... I discovered recently that omeprazole produces me nauseous : ( take it off and finish was nausea , but nothing to drink , belching
and the gas after meals , not many, but they are always present, and leave the omeprazole and end of the day always begins at 18:00 burning 2-4 hours after eating , burning , calm water with gas ;)

the problem is that I have to do endoscopy, but take one year waiting list ....... I'm thinking about making my own treatment , that you think
I can not wait another year : (

without taking anything
my symptoms , not always ... There are pattern .....
morning sickness stomach anything ..... 12:00 .....
Spot 12:30 ok anything, while some sharp jab , left
16:00 some nausea and dizziness
1800: burning
ok snack ....
22:00 dinner ok , at 00:00 nausea dizziness and sleep
2g and take sucralfate ( before sleep)

take bismuth once looked like a war ..... and in my stomach, I provoke much air and noise
I am 45 years old, for 10 do not drink, do not smoke, diet vegetables, turkey, chicken , I'm an athlete, runner and bodybuilder



en español
Estando de vacaciones trague agua de mar y 36 horas después, note como si cogiera una gripe, malestar y dolor en el cuerpo, duro unas horas, y luego inflamación estomago, unos 3 dias, deposiciones empezaron a escasear, todo esto se fue, pero quedaron unos síntomas, de nausea y mareo estomago, y heces papilla, color tirando a marron claro, unos 30dias, (era muy lento la cura cada dia menos pero muy lento) tome omeprazol y se fue todo, nunca ardores en esos dias,
al cabo de 15 dias sin sintomas y sin tomar nada, volvieron, malestar estomago y alguna nausea, en momentos de nervios (stress) empece a tomar omeprazol y aparecieron mas nauseas.... descubrí, hace poco que el omeprazol, me produce nauseas :( fue quitármelo y terminar las nauseas, pero a nada que bebo, eructos
y despues de las comidas gases, no muchos, pero siempre estan presentes, y dejar el omeprazol y al final del dia empiezan ardores 18:00 siempre a las 2 a 4 horas después de comer, ardores, calman con agua con gas ;)

el problema es que, me tienen que hacer endoscopia, pero tardan un año, lista de espera....... estoy pensando en hacer el tratamiento por mi cuenta, que os parece
yo no puedo esperar un año :(

sin tomar nada
mis sintomas, no siempre... no patrón..... son
por la mañana nada..... 12:00 mareo estomago.....
comer 12:30, ok nada, al rato algun pinchazo agudo, lado izquierdo
16:00 alguna nausea y mareo
1800: ardores
merienda ok....
cena 22:00 ok, a las 00:00 nausea mareo y a dormir
y tomo 2g Sucralfato (antes de dormir)

una vez tome bismuto..... y parecia una guerra dentro de mi estomago, provoco muchísimo aire y ruidos
tengo 45 años, hace 10 no bebo, no fumo, dieta verduras, pavo, pollo, soy deportista, corredor de fondo y culturista
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Re: Treat or wait......................

Post by Helico_expert »

Sounds like you have other infection other than H. pylori.

H. pylori cannot be found in sea water. Vibrio is found is sea water. Vibrio is normally associated with watery diarrhea.

If the water is polluted, like in the pond or lake, it can be giardia. The incubation period for giardia is very very long. Meaning you could have drank the polluted water one month ago and only now you have the symptoms.

Have you consider a blood test to see if you are positive for H. pylori? that would be sufficient to ask for a treatment if you are positive. Perhaps, the antibiotics will kill off your other infections too.
dioxnet
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Re: Treat or wait......................

Post by dioxnet »

edit:
after reading about giardiasis, if that could be the only thing :) I have heartburn too
I gain weight easily, my height 1.78cm and weight 90 kg, but muscle :)
with giardiasis, should not lose weight

.
Thank you very much for your reply.

I think it was in the sea .... but also in those days ate meat from a butcher and had new been eating at Hotel ....

the translator got it wrong: (I've never had watery diarrhea, rather pulp

Best of all, the morning that x is no symptoms throughout the day
and to hours after eating ...


I will pressure the doctor, analytical ...
Crisis in spain, we have forgotten the sick: (



Muchas gracias por su respuesta.

yo pienso que fue en el mar.... pero tambien en esos dias comia carne de una carniceria nueva y habia estado comiendo en Hotel....

el traductor lo hizo mal :( yo no he tenido nunca diarrea acuosa, mas bien pasta

lo mejor de todo que x la mañana nada de sintomas es a lo largo del dia
y a las horas despues de comer...
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