Immune System

[ruinfix]

So, I found this article online in regards to H Pylori and the immune system. The thing is, it was written before trying to sell a book. Is there much truth is in it?

I often get asked, "Is H Pylori Contagious?" by those who are concerned that they may be able to transmit their H pylori to their family. My answer is that 'It Depends' and 'In most cases, it doesn't matter' is a bit confusing because it doesn't depend upon the H Pylori, it depends upon YOU. You see, the H pylori bacteria is endemic and there is almost no way to avoid being exposed to the bacteria. In fact about half the entire world's population has the H pylori bacteria and it IS contagious under the right circumstances, but the vast majority are not even sick! Unlike when you 'catch' the flu, 'catching' H pylori is virtually meaningless for most people.

Is H Pylori Contagious
From Person to Person?

The H Pylori Bacteria can be transmitted from person-to-person with close contact. Even minor family contact like a mother kissing her baby or sharing drinking glasses can transmit the bacteria. This means that if one person in the family gets an H pylori infection, then the rest of the family is certainly going to be exposes. However, many people are exposed to H pylori for years and don't become infected. Even if they do become infected, it's often meaningless and does not cause any problems. This is not the flu, it's just a bacteria, and many people live their whole lives exposed or infected without any problems whatsoever. It's also a bit more complicated than just being exposed to H pylori. The conditions must be right for the person to actually get infected with H pylori. When people ask, "Is H pylori Contagious" it's only contagious when YOUR immune system is poor and you are susceptible to it. In fact, one study uses the term 'Failure of the Immune System' to describe those who get an H pylori infection. But again, in most cases, it's irrelevant. Additionally, it's literally impossible to prevent being exposed to H pylori. So, the question of Is H Pylori Contagious is just the wrong question in the first place.

Humans are exposed to literally trillions of bacteria- both ones that make you sick and ones that don't- yet we don't get sick from all of them. And even in the same office when a cold is 'going around', there are ALWAYS people who don't get the 'bug'. And this is the same with the H Pylori Bacteria; it's your Immune System Health that allows you to get the H pylori bacteria. This is why the bacteria is prevalent around the world, but it is MORE prevalent in poor inner city areas and third world countries where nutrition is poor and living conditions are worse.

Instead of asking "Is H Pylori Contagious", a better question to ask is "Under what circumstances does someone's Immune System allow them to get an H pylori infection". Another good question is "When and why does having an H pylori become a problem?" Because, again, most of the time, H pylori is not a problem.


Is H Pylori Contagious Through Food?

H Pylori can also be transmitted through food, particularly under cooked eggs and meats. But there is no way of knowing whether your food has H pylori in it because, unlike other food borne bacteria, it doesn't affect the quality of the food. So, assessing your food for its smell or quality is not an effective strategy against keeping the bacteria out of your food. Again, H pylori is everywhere. It is impossible to consciously avoid it. Even if you were to completely avoid animal products, you can still be exposed to the H Pylori Bacteria through casual contact with other people, and probably even from the salad bar.

From People Without Symptoms?

One of the problems with H Pylori is that, unlike colds and flu, people don't always show Symptoms of H Pylori, and in fact the majority of people with H pylori are 'silent carriers'. Even children who might seem to be healthy can be 'colonized' with H pylori and not know it. The biggest problem with this from YOUR perspective is that if you or someone in your family is undergoing Treatment for H pylori, known as Helicobacter Pylori Eradication, then these people who are silent carriers may simply give the bacteria back to the infected person again and again- making it appear that the treatment has been ineffective when the person is simply being reinfected.

For this reason, it is ideal that if one person in a family is getting H Pylori Treatment, IF they have serious symptoms, then the rest of the family be tested and treated even if they don't have any Symptoms of H Pylori. Unfortunately, the one symptom that very often DOES indicate the presence of H pylori- heartburn- is not considered serious by doctors who will simply give a prescription antacid. This is despite the fact that there are many studies that advocate that symptoms of Stomach Burning SHOULD include testing for H pylori using an:

H Pylori Breath Test
H Pylori Blood Test Or an
H Pylori Stool Test

and treating the H pylori -if it is present- instead of simply putting someone on long-term antacid therapy. If doctors WERE to do this, it would reduce the incidence of H pylori carriers who are transmitting the bacteria to others- as well as treating the CAUSE of why people are experiencing the sensation of Too Much Stomach Acid –while preventing them from experiencing the damaging problems of nutrient deficiencies and osteoporosis that long term use of prescription antacid drugs can cause.

So, the answer to, Is H Pylori Contagious is a definite YES. However, keeping your Immune System Health strong and powerful is the most important component of preventing infection and reinfection after Treatment for H Pylori. Since it is impossible to avoid coming into contact with this bacteria that infects almost half the world's population, it's YOUR responsibility to improve your immune system to keep from infecting others and from becoming infected with the H pylori bacteria.

http://www.easy-immune-health.com/is-h- ... gious.html

[Helico_expert]

The H Pylori Bacteria can be transmitted from person-to-person with close contact. Even minor family contact like a mother kissing her baby or sharing drinking glasses can transmit the bacteria. This means that if one person in the family gets an H pylori infection, then the rest of the family is certainly going to be exposes.

True. But if you are careful with your personal hygiene, you can avoid transmission.

However, many people are exposed to H pylori for years and don't become infected.

Don’t know if this is true. This experiment has not been performed and from our clinical trial, there is no one resistant to infection. Meaning, everyone we expose our H. pylori to, were infected. Perhaps we gave a high bacteria dose? Not sure.

Even if they do become infected, it's often meaningless and does not cause any problems. This is not the flu, it's just a bacteria, and many people live their whole lives exposed or infected without any problems whatsoever. It's also a bit more complicated than just being exposed to H pylori. The conditions must be right for the person to actually get infected with H pylori.

True and agree.

When people ask, "Is H pylori Contagious" it's only contagious when YOUR immune system is poor and you are susceptible to it.

False. I don’t believe H. pylori infection is due to your poor immune system. However, if you do have very strong immune response to produce acute inflammation, you’ll probably wont be infected.

In fact, one study uses the term 'Failure of the Immune System' to describe those who get an H pylori infection. But again, in most cases, it's irrelevant. Additionally, it's literally impossible to prevent being exposed to H pylori. So, the question of Is H Pylori Contagious is just the wrong question in the first place.

This is subjective. Depend how you define “failure” of immune system. An aggressive immune system that prevent H. pylori may also induce allergies to many food product, eg. Egg, gluten, dust and others.

Humans are exposed to literally trillions of bacteria- both ones that make you sick and ones that don't- yet we don't get sick from all of them. And even in the same office when a cold is 'going around', there are ALWAYS people who don't get the 'bug'.

True.

And this is the same with the H Pylori Bacteria; it's your Immune System Health that allows you to get the H pylori bacteria. This is why the bacteria is prevalent around the world, but it is MORE prevalent in poor inner city areas and third world countries where nutrition is poor and living conditions are worse.

False. If it is true, half the world population has poor immune system? Perhaps it depends on how you define “poor”.

Instead of asking "Is H Pylori Contagious", a better question to ask is "Under what circumstances does someone's Immune System allow them to get an H pylori infection". Another good question is "When and why does having an H pylori become a problem?" Because, again, most of the time, H pylori is not a problem.

Partially true.

Is H Pylori Contagious Through Food?

H Pylori can also be transmitted through food, particularly under cooked eggs and meats.
This is where I think it’s totally untrue and probably wasting my time reading the rest. H. pylori doesn’t come from eggs or meat.

But there is no way of knowing whether your food has H pylori in it because, unlike other food borne bacteria, it doesn't affect the quality of the food. So, assessing your food for its smell or quality is not an effective strategy against keeping the bacteria out of your food.

False. H. pylori does not come from contaminated food. You can go to any food store. As dirty as you like, I challenge anyone to be able to culture viable H. pylori. There is no way H. pylori can survive outside human body.

Again, H pylori is everywhere. It is impossible to consciously avoid it. Even if you were to completely avoid animal products, you can still be exposed to the H Pylori Bacteria through casual contact with other people, and probably even from the salad bar.

False. There has no evidence of isolating H. pylori from salad. Moreover, if you are in developed country where H. pylori prevalence is low, there is almost no chance of you catching H. pylori from your friends.

From People Without Symptoms?

One of the problems with H Pylori is that, unlike colds and flu, people don't always show Symptoms of H Pylori, and in fact the majority of people with H pylori are 'silent carriers'. Even children who might seem to be healthy can be 'colonized' with H pylori and not know it.

True.

The biggest problem with this from YOUR perspective is that if you or someone in your family is undergoing Treatment for H pylori, known as Helicobacter Pylori Eradication, then these people who are silent carriers may simply give the bacteria back to the infected person again and again- making it appear that the treatment has been ineffective when the person is simply being reinfected. For this reason, it is ideal that if one person in a family is getting H Pylori Treatment, IF they have serious symptoms, then the rest of the family be tested and treated even if they don't have any Symptoms of H Pylori.

True.

Unfortunately, the one symptom that very often DOES indicate the presence of H pylori- heartburn- is not considered serious by doctors who will simply give a prescription antacid. This is despite the fact that there are many studies that advocate that symptoms of Stomach Burning SHOULD include testing for H pylori using an:

H Pylori Breath Test
H Pylori Blood Test Or an
H Pylori Stool Test

and treating the H pylori -if it is present- instead of simply putting someone on long-term antacid therapy. If doctors WERE to do this, it would reduce the incidence of H pylori carriers who are transmitting the bacteria to others- as well as treating the CAUSE of why people are experiencing the sensation of Too Much Stomach Acid –while preventing them from experiencing the damaging problems of nutrient deficiencies and osteoporosis that long term use of prescription antacid drugs can cause.

So, the answer to, Is H Pylori Contagious is a definite YES.

True.

However, keeping your Immune System Health strong and powerful is the most important component of preventing infection and reinfection after Treatment for H Pylori.

False.

Since it is impossible to avoid coming into contact with this bacteria that infects almost half the world's population, it's YOUR responsibility to improve your immune system to keep from infecting others and from becoming infected with the H pylori bacteria.

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How to improve immune system? I think getting ill more often is probably the best way to improve immune system. The modern people simply doesn’t get sick enough and so the immune system is not as complex as olden days.

[sunshine37]

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However, if you do have very strong immune response to produce acute inflammation, you’ll probably wont be infected.

An aggressive immune system that prevent H. pylori may also induce allergies to many food product, eg. Egg, gluten, dust and others.

How to improve immune system? I think getting ill more often is probably the best way to improve immune system. The modern people simply doesn’t get sick enough and so the immune system is not as complex as olden days.

Dear Helico expert:

What do you mean by "preventing an active infection?" Is this related the fact that most get the H. Pylori active infection later in life, whereas they may already have had the antibodies in their system for some time? (I read elsewhere here that ulcers may form in a person whose immune system is very strong, in response to the H Pylori bacteria. Would getting an ulcer in this way point to having prevented an active infection? If so, would one still need to be treated for the H Pylori?).

Thank you.

Best wishes,
Sunshine

[Helico_expert]

In which context did i mention about prevent active infection?

anyway, it is true that anyone with very strong immune response to H. pylori infection is more likely to get ulcer. Exactly how strong an immune system has to be to get rid of H. pylori is never measured.

[sunshine37]

When people ask, "Is H pylori Contagious" it's only contagious when YOUR immune system is poor and you are susceptible to it.

False. I don’t believe H. pylori infection is due to your poor immune system. However, if you do have very strong immune response to produce acute inflammation, you’ll probably wont be infected.

......This was the context....

I am awaiting my stool test results by tomorrow and hoping upon hope that I do not have an active H Pylori infection. (my IgM antibody blood test showed 2.2 where 1.1 was a high possibility of the active infection, on the results. I was never treated in the past or had any other H pylori blood tests before).

thank you,

sunshine

[Helico_expert]

interesting. We rarely see IgM in H. pylori. IgM is only present when you have recent infection. I am not sure how long it will maintain in your blood stream, my guess is 1-2 weeks, then it'll be turned off and switch to IgG.

keep us updated with your stool test result.

[williamshaker]

I do not have an active H Pylori infection. (my IgM antibody blood test showed 2.2 where 1.1 was a high possibility of the active infection, on the results.

thinks for sharing this




== Solitaire ==

[Helico_expert]

interesting sharing. Here I would like to share a quote from an evaluation study of IgM, IgA and IgG.

IgM has been found to have little diagnostic utility for H. pylori infections and is elevated only acutely after infection, whereas H. pylori infections are generally chronic (8, 18). Here we show that IgM has extremely low sensitivity, confirming its lack of clinical utility in either children or adults.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2725530/