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Helicobacter and Travel

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:52 am
by Lola28
My son is getting married in Bali and has asked us to visit Bali in february to check out wedding venues.
I am currently positive for Helicobacter and taking NexiumH7 (Yuk). I am scared to travel to a developing country in case I contract it again (assuming I will test negative in around 5 weeks time!) Am I over reacting or am I right to be cautious.
I have no idea how long I've had this but the enamel is worn off all off the back of all my teeth due to acid reflux (dentist raised concern 8 months ago). I had issues with seriously low B12 & iron about 3 years ago with no know cause. I have felt as if i have either an auto immune disease of fibromyalgia for years and suspect it has been this infection all along.
Any advice welcome, my gut is telling me not to go but I wonder if i'm just being dramatic about it.

Re: Helicobacter and Travel

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:29 am
by Helico_expert
H. pylori dont spread easily. You wont catch it from street food or drinks.

However, since you have reflux symptom, it is better you keep your oral clean by frequent brushing teeth. That will reduce the chance of spreading H. pylori to other people.

H. pylori is associate with B12 and iron deficiency. Hopefully your Nexium HP7 treatment is successful, and you'll get a good stomach and resolve your B12 and iron problem. one stone hitting many birds.

Have a good trip to Bali.

Re: Helicobacter and Travel

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:34 am
by Lola28
Thank you :)

Re: Helicobacter and Travel

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:40 pm
by Paulicapopcorn
Helico_expert wrote: Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:29 am H. pylori dont spread easily. You wont catch it from street food or drinks.

However, since you have reflux symptom, it is better you keep your oral clean by frequent brushing teeth. That will reduce the chance of spreading H. pylori to other people.

H. pylori is associate with B12 and iron deficiency. Hopefully your Nexium HP7 treatment is successful, and you'll get a good stomach and resolve your B12 and iron problem. one stone hitting many birds.

Have a good trip to Bali.

How does it spread ? I heard a thousand theories about either from air to food/drinks to fecal matters etc

Re: Helicobacter and Travel

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:59 pm
by Helico_expert
The most believable theory is that you catch your H. pylori when you are young. Your mother, or carer, spoon fed you with a contaminated spoon. In many culture, mother would
1. lick clean the spoon.
2. blow to reduce food temperature.
3. chew the food the mince the food.
4. chew the food to remove bones.
etc

the feeding period is normally 2-3 years, and you only need 1 successful infection during that period, you are infected for life.

this practice is gradually replaced by modern kitchenware in modern society. In addition, personal hygiene, especially oral hygiene, is maintained in modern world. hence the prevalence of H. pylori is reducing rapidly in the modern city.

Re: Helicobacter and Travel

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:02 am
by Paulicapopcorn
I dont know how credible that is.
I had my infection and my mom tested herself to make sure she is fine and she came back negative so do the rest of my family.
And how could it possibly spread from breath ? Than it’s mega contagious.
Does it enter the blood stream?

Re: Helicobacter and Travel

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:43 pm
by Helico_expert
you are one of the rare case.

perhaps you caught it from carer or child care?

in modern society where both parents have to work, sometimes grandparents/nanny are asked to help. Sometimes, children are sent to day care.

it is also possible to catch it from kissing, but that's rare in modern society. because of oral hygiene is usually well taken care of.

H. pylori cannot be spread by breath. there is theory that H. pylori can be spread by contaminated water source. but I am very doubtful about it because H. pylori cannot survive well outside human body. it has to be spread in close contact. in modern society, because of the good hygiene practice, H. pylori is disappearing.

H. pylori does not enter blood stream.